How is my form

[victorbrca]

Anyone see anything wrong with my form?? First time shooting....


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Vic.

[Duggernaut]

Try to relax your bow hand just a bit more. Just keep shooting and have fun. Are those wood arrows? If they are, you should really invest in some modern arrows designed for your bow.

[victorbrca]

Try to relax your bow hand just a bit more. Just keep shooting and have fun. Are those wood arrows? If they are, you should really invest in some modern arrows designed for your bow.


They are wood cheap canadian tire ones. They were sold as practice arrows.... They had other types of arrow (I think carbon) but did not come with the tips and they did not have separate tips to sell. I'm gonna be ordering better ones soon!!!!

Thanks for they pointer. I'll try to relax more!!! ;)

[Duggernaut]

I would seriously not shoot those arrows if your bows draw weight is over 10 pounds. Those shafts are made for kids bows and I would hate to see the next picture of you with a broken arrow through your hand. Get the proper tips for your carbons. :D

[Taxman]

When they say to relax the grip hand, it's easiest to start by barely closing your hand at all. Open up you fingers and ensure they aren't gripping the bow. After the shot, you will not drop you bow.

As your drawing, you should feel the bow pushing into your palm as opposed to using your draw arm to assist drawing the bow.

Make sense?

Mike

[victorbrca]

It does make sense. I noticed that every time I relaxed my arms and shoulders I was able to "hold" the target better and get a better shot. I'll try it again today.

As for the arrows, how do I know what type of arrows I should use? Is it by the Cable tune number (2830) in my bow? Because I noticed the arrows I got on canadian tire had a set of 4 digit number.

They were actually strong enough to pierce my wood fence when I missed the target...


Thanks a lot,


Vic.

[Mikey]

ok first and formost ...arras ... the 4 digit # is the size and spine of said arrow ... why dont you put up the make and the number of the arrow and we can you what it is ....

Put the wooden arrows away .... That bow looks old enough that its probally considered trad gear anyway ...but Compound bows are way more effcient and designed for more cosistant material like aluminuim or carbon .....

now as for form .... like as said above relax your bow hand .... turn it about 45 degrees so the bow rests on the meat of your palm .... and to me it looks like the draw is about an inch too short for ya, That and the Peep tubing is no longer attached to the peep ...so its prolly hard to see thru the peep

[Grunter]

Can't comment on the cable tune number personally but it sounds like the numbers on the arrow shafts are likely just model/series like with any other arrow. First thing you will need to do is get properly measured for the specific arrow shaft length you need and go from there.

At that point you're going to have to make considerations for the type of arrow you want, weight of the arrow, weight of the tips, fletching style, etc.

There's a wealth of information on this site and there's a great website (http://www.huntersfriend.com) that was brought to my attention just last week that would be great for anyone to reference

[victorbrca]

** Eureka ** lol... So the little hole that the rubber tube attaches too is where I align my eyes to the peep sights? I was wondering that because I noticed it was hard to keep my eyes on the same location every time I shot!!!!

The tube was loose on that shot, but I was able to attach it again.

As for the arrow, I bought it on Canadian tire. They actually both broke. I know they were wood and 31”. I could not find a specialized store close to me (Mississauga), so I’m probably gonna buy one or two arrows from walmart (compound as instructed) and order a bigger number from the Internet.

The bow does have over 10 pounds weight. It’s 50-60 Peak, 28 Draw and 360 min grain arrow.

I have some more pics here if anyone wants to see a noob in action!!! Lol

http://wazem.dyndns.org/temp/Archery/


Thanks!!! :)


Vic.

[Taxman]

Hey Vic,

Those are hilarious pictures! :lol:

There must be an archery shop somewhere near the GTA, but for sure, there's a place called the Wolf's Den up near Barrie

www.wolfsdensports.com

and The Bow Shop in Waterloo

www.bow-shop.com

Never been to Wolf's Den, but I hear they are great and I know from experience that The Bow Shop is great.

Take you whole setup in with you and they will set you up like you never imagined. They also have shooting ranges where you can reduce your number of fence kills!

They'll also suggest a number of different arrows you can buy.

Any other questions, just ask! I still consider myself a rookie too!

Mike

[Taxman]

I should add that you could always go to Bass Pro too, but the personalized service of these shops above would absolutely blow away anything that Bass Pro could do.

Mike

[HOYTarcher]

Stan Siatkowski works at the Canadian Bass Pro in the archery department. Stan is a great archery resource and has shot on the Canadian National Team in his prime I believe in both recurve and compound. I would not hesitate to head there if no one else is close to you......

[victorbrca]

Lol… I’m glad I could entertain you guys!!! ;)

Thanks for the site too Lonnie. I’ve already read most of the stuff they have on Technical Help!!!

I passed by Wolf’s Den exit this week. They even have a sign on 404 for it. Unfortunately I could not stop. I also checked now and the closest Bass Pro is on the way to Barrie too. It’s on the new Vaughn mall.

I’m going to buy one arrow on wall mart just so I can keep practicing. But as soon as I have a chance I’ll drive up to one of these places and get their help. I just got a jeep and it only does about 80km on the highway. It would take me a good 1:30 to drive to Wolf’s Den from Mississauga… lol

I do have two more questions. I hope I’m not bugging too much!!! ;)

1-My string does not have a loop on the nocking place. Is it ok for me to attach the release trigger right under the nock?

2-Should I wait until I start hitting the same place to start adjust my peep pins? I’m guessing it would not make any good adjusting now if I’m all over the place….


Thanks once again for all the help!!!!


Vic.

[Taxman]

Stan Siatkowski works at the Canadian Bass Pro in the archery department. Stan is a great archery resource and has shot on the Canadian National Team in his prime I believe in both recurve and compound. I would not hesitate to head there if no one else is close to you......

Does Stan work at the Vaghn Mills store? I've been there several times and getting someone to help you out is terribly difficult. Not trying to knock them, but the small stores will take you right in (under their wing) and set you up right.

Mike

[Taxman]

Vic,

You should buy three arrows as a minimum. And yes, you should work on your form without worrying about where you are hitting.

Another benefit of having an archery shop close to you would be the possibility of lessons. I took mine at The Bow Shop and they were invaluable. I shot a traditional bow first, learning the technique and then progressed to my compound.

Start at 10 yards first (or whatever you know you can hit the target at) and work on proper form and when your arrows are consistently together, then it's time to move the sights.

Rule of thumb is if you're missing high and left, you move your sights higher and to the left. This will bring your bow into the centre of the target. You can fully expect this to change as you shoot more. You'll develop a form over the shooting and minor corrections can always be had.

When you're good at 10, then you can move back to 20 yards and the fun starts again!

Mike

[HOYTarcher]

I didn't know there was more than one Bass Pro, not sure which one he works at. I have only met him on a couple of occasions, but know he is a knowlegable archer cable of giving excellent advice.

I have been to several small stores that I wouldn't let any of there staff hold my bow let alone work on it. Crappy staff can work anywhere..............

Definately takes time to find the right combination of knowledge and customer service in a store to trust what they are doing.

[victorbrca]

How about Le Baron? Is it any good?

Vic.

[Valley Lad]

How about Le Baron? Is it any good?

Vic.

No. Their archery selection and service is terrible in Markham - the Mississauga store can't be worse but I doubt it's much better. Their focus is firearms, camping and fishing gear.

[victorbrca]

Thanks for the tips Mike!!!

I got 2x "Carbon Rebel 6075" and 100 grain, 0.75cm (19/64") points. I'm guessing the arrows are a ibt light for my bow, but I think they'll do it until I have a chance to go to Wolf's Den.

My shots where actually getting closer to each other at a 10-12 yards range. :beer:



Vic.

[firelt23]

Just my two cents on the pics of your form I noticed a couple things. It looks like your peep sight my be just a little to low. A good way to check is close your eyes, draw the bow to your anchor point like your going to shoot and open your eyes. The peep should be right in front of your eye. If not, have it adjusted. Secondly it seems that the arrow appears to be higher in the rear at full draw. That could be something as simple as the nock point slipping up your string. In looking at your other photos, it looked like your shots were all over the paper. Not that we all don't have that problem at some time or another, but if you take the bow to the archery shop, I believe that they will easily correct any problems with the bow and assist you with improving your form.

Also I would question the use of the wood behind your target. This could be why you you have pictures of broken arrows. They just don't like that kind of abuse. Again this is my two cents. Hope things work out for you. Good luck.