Helmet Poll

[cdn-redneck]

I just want to check this out guys. Let's be honest on this one. Also give a reason why you do or don't.

[Jack19]

I don't wear one and don't really know why. I don't ususally ride that hard to need one but I guess you never when you may take a bad spill.

[scooter]

I ALWAYS wear a helmet when I go on trail. ALWAYS!

I have seen what happens when you wipe out without a helmet. My full face helmet has saved all of my teeth before and I am sure it will again. I don't think that I want my grey matter spilled all over a hill when a quad rolls back over on me and squishes my noodle.

Everyone that rides with me on trail wears a helmet. Plain and simple.

[cdn-redneck]

I used to always wear one with my 3 wheeler. I am getting a new one to wear with my quad soon. My buddy and I talked and decided we should be wearing them, so I will have one before I ride next time. I really don't know why we haven't been, but we are going to start.

[WOOKIE]

The Doctors and Phyciatrists tell Warden he has to wear his helmet 24/7, so when he rides he wears it by default! It even has a built in drool cup. I always wear mine too. Just too risky

[BlueNorther]

Nope,don't wear one,and I run with scissors too :lol: .

[manford]

No I dont wear one on the quad ever. I dont go riding like you guys do though. Meanig we dont go on long rides and stuff most of the time my quad is unloaded to pull critters out of the bush or working on something.Sledding I do wear it sometimes. Getting up into the higher speeds. It might not make sense but thats the way it is.

[Mikey]

Manford ...Please dont take this post personally but your response is the perfect way to bring this subject up... Oh and Yes I always wear a helmet on an OHV

I dont go riding like you guys do though

As I wandered thru the Calgary sportman show a few weeks ago I was talking with several exhibitors on the hunting and fishing side mostly about Looming OHV area closures and the general response I got from the some of the exhibitors as well as about 95% of the public that over heard our conversation was that "Those closures dont apply to Hunters and fisherman ...only those damn offroad maniacs"

well two things .... #1whats your guys' opinion of that? and #2 It does include hunters and fisherman ... that would mean no use of Quads to collect your downed animal or get to your favorite fishin hole and if your caught in these closed areas with your OHV that would mean possible impoundment and/or up wards around a 10k fine as well as possibly Criminal charges under the Special places act of Alberta

As a member of a Group on the front line of the fight to keep these areas open for Multi-use I am curious of where the Average Hunter of Alberta lies his Opinion and if he or she is interested in receiving updates on our fight to keep areas open and/or is willing to help to keep his/her sport alive and well

Thanks

Mikey


Scott or Trev if ya'll this is more appropiate in another thread ....please move .....

[Dillershortbow]

No i don`t probley shoud qauding is safer than my day job . I don`t ride hard igo slow cause i ride to see critters & timber but i think i will start waring one.

[Gumby]

99% of my quad riding is done around the farm doing such jobs as fencing, hauling salt, minerals, etc. It'd drive me nuts to be having to put one on and off constantly. I don't as a rule use mine for a toy like most of you guys do and rarely get up to high speeds. They are a good idea though and I should get one for those rare occasions when I do play with it.

[cdn-redneck]

These are the types of responses I was expecting. Those who don't wear them really have no good reason why they don't wear one (myself included) and know they should. I agree with all that has been said here both why we do and why we don't. My buddy and I are looking at getting some open face helmets to waer while hunting so that we could possibly shoot if we had to while wearing the helmets. No judgements passed on your decisions either I just wanted see the consensus.

[bronco77]

Take it from a guy that lives in the heart of Florida, if you can wear a helmet and live with the heat you're one tough dude. I don't know of anyone who wears one down here unless you're racing.

[kodiacnb]

Didn't wear them at first....But sure wear them now, after some of the sights I've seen of people who didn't have them on in only minor accidents. Some of their noggins sure took a beaten. And also it's the Law of the land here in NB.

[acearchery]

****** RANT WARNING**********


I have not always worn a helmet,

However when I have worn a helmet it has saved my life many times.
Now a helmet is 100% mandatory for the riding I do. Along with appropriatte eye protection.

-once as a 10 year old kid and I flipped a three wheeler on the farm.
Another time on a 3 wheeler while racing -big wipeout -concussion hurt very much bad

And on many other occasions where I was riding like a maniac, and on a few where I wasn't riding like a maniac.

I will be very judgemental....... When I see someone using an ATV without a helmet no EXCUSE in the world works.

Excuse #1 too uncomfortable - try a wheelchair, mental institution, or pine box for comfort -Buy a good Motocross helmet like I do that is light, cool and good protection including face guard.

Excuse number 2 Don't have time... try a wheelchair, institution, or pine box on and see how much time you have saved!

excuse number 3: I don't look macho........try a wheelchair, institution, or pine box on and see how macho you look.

...... get the point.....

Isn't it ironic by not wearing a helmet you may end up wearing a helmet and diapers for the rest of your life.


Oh right "IT WON"T HAPPEN TO YOU"............... because I am just using it to work on the farm, while fencing....yada...yada...yada... What about to and from the work area?

Of course attending an 8 year old friend's funeral who was quadding without a helmet may have created my strong opinion.

Riding responsibly is important, and part of riding responsibly is wearing the appropriatte gear period. You cannot foresee every possible situation. I use the word appropriatte for a reason. When using a quad for fencing etc.- where I am working for 10 minutes then driving the quad ahead for 30 feet then working 10 minutes, or when setting up a 3 D course where you are driving at a slow rate of speed between stations and working at each station. You have to assess the risks and if I end up with a head injury -obviously I did not assess correctly.

HOWEVER: My helmet is available for when I have to run over somewhere quickly to do something and I wear it!

As for hunting off of a quad....... illegal in alberta to discharge a weapon within a certain distance of a motor vehicle-----

[Mikey]

****** RANT WARNING**********


I have not always worn a helmet,

However when I have worn a helmet it has saved my life many times.
Now a helmet is 100% mandatory for the riding I do. Along with appropriatte eye protection.

-once as a 10 year old kid and I flipped a three wheeler on the farm.
Another time on a 3 wheeler while racing -big wipeout -concussion hurt very much bad

And on many other occasions where I was riding like a maniac, and on a few where I wasn't riding like a maniac.

I will be very judgemental....... When I see someone using an ATV without a helmet no EXCUSE in the world works.

Excuse #1 too uncomfortable - try a wheelchair, mental institution, or pine box for comfort -Buy a good Motocross helmet like I do that is light, cool and good protection including face guard.

Excuse number 2 Don't have time... try a wheelchair, institution, or pine box on and see how much time you have saved!

excuse number 3: I don't look macho........try a wheelchair, institution, or pine box on and see how macho you look.

...... get the point.....

Isn't it ironic by not wearing a helmet you may end up wearing a helmet and diapers for the rest of your life.


Oh right "IT WON"T HAPPEN TO YOU"............... because I am just using it to work on the farm, while fencing....yada...yada...yada... What about to and from the work area?

Of course attending an 8 year old friend's funeral who was quadding without a helmet may have created my strong opinion.

Riding responsibly is important, and part of riding responsibly is wearing the appropriatte gear period. You cannot foresee every possible situation. I use the word appropriatte for a reason. When using a quad for fencing etc.- where I am working for 10 minutes then driving the quad ahead for 30 feet then working 10 minutes, or when setting up a 3 D course where you are driving at a slow rate of speed between stations and working at each station. You have to assess the risks and if I end up with a head injury -obviously I did not assess correctly.

HOWEVER: My helmet is available for when I have to run over somewhere quickly to do something and I wear it!

As for hunting off of a quad....... illegal in alberta to discharge a weapon within a certain distance of a motor vehicle-----

well said ...

For those that Know Acarcher....
once as a 10 year old kid and I flipped a three wheeler on the farm.
Another time on a 3 wheeler while racing -big wipeout -concussion hurt very much bad
And another time ... at Bandcamp........LOL

this explains everything :thumbsup:

However ... the slow setting up course, and to a point the fencing jobs arguements dont hold any water with me what so ever .... I will bet dollars to donuts that each one of us dont wear a bucket while loading and unloading from our trucks or trailers either.... potentially the most dangerous part of the day .... why settin up course... those that use their machines to set up ... have you ever been off camber on the trail? ... 3d courses that i know are in amounst the trees ... ever taken a branch off the forehead??? brain bucket will save a lot of hurt ...
fencing .... flat field ... but when you are done I bet you dont put put put back to the ranch house do ya ..... ....hit a badger hole at 25-30 kph and yer screwed

Its common knowledge that the activity that will hurt you is the one you are most familiar with .... the menial task is where 90% of workplace injuries occur .... why would the personal lives be any differant?

[Kirby]

Always wear a helmet on quads. My parents really drilled it into me, I grew up racing skis, moved onto downhill mountain bikes, Racing Snowboards all over Canada, and finally crotch rockets. I cannot count the number of times a helmet has saved my face, and on a couple of occasions my life.

Never needed one on a quad yet, but the time will come.

Two types of riders, those who have crashed, and those who are going to crash.

Kirby

[acearchery]

this explains everything :thumbsup:

However ... the slow setting up course, and to a point the fencing jobs arguements dont hold any water with me what so ever .... I will bet dollars to donuts that each one of us dont wear a bucket while loading and unloading from our trucks or trailers either.... potentially the most dangerous part of the day .... why settin up course... those that use their machines to set up ... have you ever been off camber on the trail? ... 3d courses that i know are in amounst the trees ... ever taken a branch off the forehead??? brain bucket will save a lot of hurt ...
fencing .... flat field ... but when you are done I bet you dont put put put back to the ranch house do ya ..... ....hit a badger hole at 25-30 kph and yer screwed

Its common knowledge that the activity that will hurt you is the one you are most familiar with .... the menial task is where 90% of workplace injuries occur .... why would the personal lives be any differant?[/QUOTE]


Mikey..... Well said and True! -COMPLACENCY KILLS......

[Gaelan]

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Helmets Helmets Helmets

Mandatory equipment when I ride with anyone or they ride with me, and it has to fit right! I don't care if I am 50 miles from nowhere, If I don't have proper fitting gear.. I'll walk ... but thank you for the offer of a ride.

Having raced Moto X on the Amature Circuit in my teens and then doing Volunteer duty as as Emerg Response Personel, I've seen what happens when a person tosses on a brainbucket that is too loose and then has an accident. Moreso with an ill fitting Full Face helmet like many racers wear.

I myself am VERY adamant about helmet use, I've crashed my bikes a few of times while racing and in every case the melon minder took the abuse that would have turned me into a nice quiet guy with the IQ of baked potato.


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[3DLVR]

I never wear mine up to the stand and back. I run pretty slow and last year when I got back to my bike some SOB had cut the strap and now owns a very expensive helmet. If I am going for a ride anywhere except that , then I wear one

[Travski]

I wear mine 99% of the time unfort no excuse for not wearing one the last 1%. When I was 14 years old I lost a friend who tripped on the foot peg while trying to get off his Trike. Unfort for him he did not have a helmet on and hit his head on a rock the size of a soft ball. He passed away with in 30 minutes of hitting his head. 14years old and had his life taken from him. He was not even driving just caught his foot on the damn peg.

As for you guys who use the quads to retreive animals that is great but one of the most dangerous parts of the ride is driving it in and out of the back of the truck. where is the helmet when you are doing that???????

Just my thoughts


Travis

[jackal]

I dont ride bikes much but tell me how the heck do all you guy anchor for a shot with that helmet on :lol: :lol: :lol:

[WCTHEMI]

I wear my helmet all the time for one reason. The helmet is hard, my head isn't. Also need to remember to get a new lid every few years, or after a bad crash as the helmets ability to protect you drops.

[timba]

I had to as a kid on the farm but now that I'm older I don't but I also don't rip around like I used to either.

[Magnet.]

since ive lived on the farm with both my grandparents and my parents ive had "go get your helmet" drilled into my head, so when im goin out to fool arround, and just being a total ideiot n general i do, but when im movin arround and i need to be able to see arround me at ease (movin cattle) i dont ... though i should ... but until i take a spill its more of a hinderance than a help... but when im bording thats a completely diff story after getting wiplash.

[tecspec]

:ohmy:
I put down no, because most of the time it only comes off the trailer to haul an animal.
Just to add some confusion, I do have a helmet, but I only use it when I'm out playing to see where I can get it stuck.

[kbowie]

Yes I wear a helmet most of the time. If on a short ride to get fire wood or what ever we don't but for the most part we do. I have seen first hand what happens to others that chose not to wear one and it is not nice to see.

[dg72a]

I always wear my helmet. And you don't have to be going fast to take a nasty spill......... take care. :) dg.

[Milo]

I always wear a helmet when i'm on a dirtbike or rippin around showin off my quad with tracks, but when i'm huntin i don't. Just for the reason that i can see alot better and my quad is usually loaded down with gear and i'm crawlin along.

[Wildfoot]

ive crashed off a lot of quads. I ususally dont wear helmets, but after every bail i wish i had one on. the scariest was hitting a rut in a deactivated forest road and my rear wheels caught the rut too, it bucked me over the handle bars and the honda 300 + heavy trailer drove over top of me. I was about a 5 hour walk to the nearest person. I was lucky and was able to drive myself.

[Tazhunter]

When riding trails I wear a helmet. However, like many other posts, when the job is work or getting to my stand on my property, I do not wear a helmet. My property doesn't allow for speeds above about 2 mph. Between ruts, deep water, and a lot of bends in the trail, the speed doesn't justify the use of a helmet.

[acearchery]

I like the 2 mph....argument

walking speed is 3 mph.... ... why quad?...

Besides I have never seen terrain I can't do at least 30k over.... Just have to hold on tighter...and ignore the screaming passenger!.....

probably whay I have to wear a helmet.... Always!......

"the speed doesn't justify the use of a helmet"

How can this statement be true.... if you can't judge speed properly!....

[Tazhunter]

Aside from the fact that I don't like getting my balls wet on the way to my stand, walking would be the preferred choice. :)

Water is unpredictable on our property, but flooded or dry the trail never changes. Go slow, don't bury it in the mud, along with tree clearing, annual branch removal, and good trail maintenance provide a clear, maneuverable, and safe trail. (This also keeps the trail quieter when you can walk it.)

Bring your bike and do 30K on my trail and I'll have the evac unit waiting for you somewhere around the 1st 2 pine trees. :)

For all other(not my property) trail riding I do have my helmet on.

Part of being safe is knowing where you are riding. If you don't know the area, check it out before acting like the proverbial idiot. If you don't then you can't fix stupid. And even when you know the area, know what area can bring to your riding experience (i.e. gophers, washouts, rock slides, etc.).

We all have our reasons for what we do. Right or wrong, the strong will survive. Which is why we're all here right?

Ride safe.

[acearchery]

Good points!....

I was exagerrating a bit on the 30 kph (18 mph) as I am sure you were as well on the 2 mph max!......

[gpare]

I dont wear one while hunting, but I do when just riding or on a rally.

[jimhenderson]

My OHV eats grass and wears shoes.I wore a full face helmet on him once,just as a joke and when he turned his head around to look at me spooked and bucked me off. 16H.H need a shetland pony if I try that agin!:D

[mooseman]

Well i wear a helmet 99% of the time in mostly dirt biking not atving but i still wear a helmet the only time I don't is if im just on the atv for like 5 minutes, just around the yard but i always wear a helmet. If i didn't i would be in the hospital right now i got in a bad wipe out the other day.

[scooter]

Looks like Alberta is going to be putting a "mandatory helmet law" in place for ATV's...It's about time!

[Tod Brick]

I don't always wear mine but I always make my kid's wear them. I can't tell you why but I dont, If I go on a hard ride with all the boy's I make dame sure I hav it on:confused::confused:

[ARGO GUY]

Guys I have a friend clinging to life in a coma right now because no damn helmet. he was not going that fast just hit a bad patch and got tossed of and smashed his head. Next time out think of how your wife or family memeber will feel getting the kind of news above. 2 kids may never ride with Dad AGAIN !!!! Is it worth it ???

[Claas]

Looks like Alberta is going to be putting a "mandatory helmet law" in place for ATV's...It's about time!

Any update to this?

[scooter]

Any update to this?
It won't be long now...Another couple of months from what I've heard.

[acearchery]

It is pretty sad when common sense needs to be legislated!

[booog]

Wellllll life sucks and i was told to get a helmet,,, Soooo i did. No but really i wear a helmet always have always will. too much riding on these shoulders.

[ubuck]

Hi All

First time post.

I wear my helmet while drivimg my quad and a seat belt in my truck.

At my age it takes too long to heal up!!!

Ubuck:beer::beer:

[Monster76]

Hey All,
I don't wear a helmet on my trip from my base to the hunting site no but any other time I do. If it is a trail ride or scouting I will always wear a helmet.

[Turfguy]

The only time I don't wear one is when i drive it on my way to hunt. It's about 3/4 of mile in and only do about 10mph.

Always wear one when trail riding.

[jcrayford2001]

I always wear one, and my wife and son have thier own as well to wear.

Think about this: unloading your quad from the truck and a ramp gives way / slips. Down you go, falling 6-8 ft onto the hardpack / pavement smacking your head. That's a fall big enough to give you a concussion (if not worse) and then to top that off, along comes your quad and drops onto your head (in my case, a 700 pound machine)...

Or how about: travelling into your stand at slower than 10 km/h and it's not quite sunrise. You come around a corner you know like the back of your hand and the back tire catches the stump you've passed a hundred times. Only this time, your quad leans to the outside and off you go, head first into a fallen tree.

For the 20 seconds it takes to put on a skid lid, I'll take the extra time and protect myself for life (and the remainder of it).

Wear your helmets boys!! Live to hunt another day!!

[Dillershortbow]

I don`t wear a helmit but thats my choice and i would like to keep it my choice not be forced into it. I know i should but i don`t think compared to my past day job the danger factor is squat...

[Vinny]

I always wore a helmet when riding my sled and this just carried over to the atv. My wife and sons also wear helmets with the kids wearing chest protectors as well(when they ride their own atv's). Dosen't seem to be such a bad thing when you consider the possibilities if not wearing one. I know there are those that argue that bad things can happen with or without a helmet but I like to control as muchas possible in my favor. Do I think it should be mandatory, no, but I don`t think that the gov`t should pay the medical expenses of people that do not look after themselves either.

Just my 2 cents

[jcrayford2001]

...Do I think it should be mandatory, no, but I don`t think that the gov`t should pay the medical expenses of people that do not look after themselves either....

Now there's some forward thinking!!! I like it!!

If you choose to not wear the helmet, totally your choice - just don't expect the rest of society to pay for your downfall when things *could have* been prevented or lessened...

You take the risk, you pay the price...

[Boneman]

I crashed a quad at work 4 years ago. Nothing fast or stupid, a 35 kmh endo. The quad spiked me, hit so hard it snapped the chin guard off the helmet and still had enough force to break my cheekbone. I'm a believer, helmets save lives. My eggs woulda been scrambled for certain without one.

[scooter]

Fun. This post keeps popping up. First posted in 2004. Lol.

[cdn-redneck]

I think in that period of time people have changed with regards to helmets. We wear them all the time now where before we didn't when hunting. there is a quick release buckle available that meets DOT standards so the excuse to not wear one due to the length of time to take the helmet off is no longer an issue. Glad things are coming around.

[darklcd]

In the ER there is name for people that don't ware helmet's on quads, sport bikes ect they are known as organ donors. There is no reason at all not to ware a helmet when riding at all. I remember when I was little and my dad was first showing me how to ride anything the first rule was always ware a lid didn't matter what it was if there was no lid there was no ride PERIOD and after watching my brother roll a quad on a steep grade and watching his helmet be the only thing that saved him when the quad came over and hit his head I will never go with out one.

All it takes is a split second and you are a quad for life having someone change you and eating meals through a straw.

Keep that in mind.

[scooter]

In the ER there is name for people that don't ware helmet's on quads, sport bikes ect they are known as organ donors. There is no reason at all not to ware a helmet when riding at all. I remember when I was little and my dad was first showing me how to ride anything the first rule was always ware a lid didn't matter what it was if there was no lid there was no ride PERIOD and after watching my brother roll a quad on a steep grade and watching his helmet be the only thing that saved him when the quad came over and hit his head I will never go with out one.

All it takes is a split second and you are a quad for life having someone change you and eating meals through a straw.

Keep that in mind.
I agree with you 100%!!

[darklcd]

I don't want to sound like a dick or anything but I mean come on. I have seen people roll quads pulling up the ramps into the back of a truck I am guilty of that and even doing that I ware a helmet.

If people don't want to fine but don't expect nurses (like myself) to sit here and not get ****ed at stuff like that. Every year I see it happen and I see people end up in wheelcharis for life because they had no lid.

I am sick of it.

-rant over-

[Bearcat]

Helmets are the law in Ontario. As a trapper and hunter I put roughly a thousand miles on my Quad each year and in some pretty rough country and my helmet has saved me countless headaches and worse. I don't like to have to think too much so I just put it on before the bike starts and take it off when its' tucked away in the garage. Yeah I might look a little funny when I get off to walk in and check a trap set but I just got used to it and I enjoy these activities so much that I'm not willing to risk serious injury and have to give up these pursuits. I prefer an open face helmet because I like the wind in my face but I also utilize a quality face shield during cold weather. The same goes for my wife and her quad.
As far as loading and unloading from my pick-up; i don't ride on the bike I stand beside the ramp and drive it up. I have had a ramp break on me and was lucky enough to not be hurt but believe me it happens fast.
Just MHO....

[cdn-redneck]

I don't want to sound like a dick or anything but I mean come on. I have seen people roll quads pulling up the ramps into the back of a truck I am guilty of that and even doing that I ware a helmet.

If people don't want to fine but don't expect nurses (like myself) to sit here and not get ****ed at stuff like that. Every year I see it happen and I see people end up in wheelcharis for life because they had no lid.

I am sick of it.

-rant over-

It is amazing that people who "always" wear helmets don't wear them when loading and unloading their quads. I have seen this on ATV tv shows where they always promote wearing helmets. Wear your helmet when you are on your quad this includes loading and unloading. For hunting time there are quick release buckles available that maintain your DOT rating. Don't end up like Charlie, also attach your ramps to your truck or trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZxCSJ-FHQo

[BCBrez]

I ride hard so I always wear mine. I know to many people who have been hurt badly with and without them.

[Redneck Hunter 619]

Yes I wear a helmet as I would rather not be a drooling vegitable and be able to enjoy the rest of my life with my son hunting in the woods like the way my father does.

[hilbilyhunter]

I dont wear one but should !!

[machinegunjohn]

I always where my helmet, eye protection too, its the sticks on the trails that will poke your eyes out regardless of the helmet or not

[coyotekiller82]

I always wear a helmet...even if it's just out to cut some wood & I'm putting to get there. It's the law & I'd rather live than die if I crash. Just that simple!

[benamen]

My helmet came in handy a couple years ago. Riding down a.back trail with my son and started to follow him around a 45 degree corner with a couple ruts in it. My quad didn't seem to want to carve around the corner so I steared left a little more. I felt the back wheels start to lift and then i let go of the handle grips. Next thing I remember is getting up and looking at the overturned quad that stumbled and quit upside down. I flipped it back over before my son came back for me. It started back up but the rear rack and handle bars didn't look so pretty anymore. No injuries to me thank goodness. You can never tell when a helmet will come in handy.

[Trapperdan2060]

Why wouldnt you??????

[BobH]

Can't think of any good reason not to wear one. Also have young kids that watch me ride so I want to set a good example.

[alpineman]

Me and anyone we ride with wears one or they don't ride with us. I've been in situations where if I didn't have one things would have turned out much worse. When you least expect it something happens wear a helmet don't be an idiot.

[johnwillson]

All my riding is done on the land and at slow speeds. they are a nuisance when getting on and off to do things and they obstruct vision.. IF I was riding hard and fast THEN and only THEN would I wear one..

[705jr]

yes! i wear a helmet . ive seen to much to not wear one! ive raced motocycles for years. so yes!!!!

[Smokey]

As a guy that works in the emergnecy services and has to pick up the pieces I can say that helmets do save lives. So wear them Please.

[JR catering]

Smokey, you a firefighter? I'm guessing by 'smokey'. I'm a volly.

[G.A.]

i need one just to go for coffee some days
we got a guy here in bc has been stiring poo over our helmut laws for a few years. east indian refuses to wear a helmut for bycicles even though its law here. more of the religious right stuff. and the last i heard from this same guy, he works at the waterfront and refuses to wear a hard hat...by law also. diff hat but even rcmp and they refuse to wear our hat as part of uniform.
the guy should be forced to sign a waver to cancell any head injury claims then. ..seems they allowed this to. to bad someone from another country can come here and be expemt from our laws. should start a new religion that allows me to break any law. its my religous right/.////lol
this isnt meant as a racist thing either. just bugs e that anyone can think they are above the law...especialy new comers

[Smokey]

Smokey, you a firefighter? I'm guessing by 'smokey'. I'm a volly.

You got it, cool on being a volly. It's getting harder to find guys and girls to volunteer anymore, no one seems to want to make a commitment anymore.

[JR catering]

You got it, cool on being a volly. It's getting harder to find guys and girls to volunteer anymore, no one seems to want to make a commitment anymore.

and then when they do commit, it's hard to get peeps to show up for practice regularly.

[Smokey]

They all start out full of piss and vinegar but as soon as the pagers go off a few times in the middle of the night there attitudes change fast. I still volunteer in the small community I live in and it's getting tougher all the time to get FF's out and moving. They all want to fight the fires but all the other calls are boring to them but it's all part of the job to me.

[Smokey]

Back to the original post be, advised that gogles are a big part of safety as well. There was a guy up by my hunting camp riding with a friend and he got a bit in front of him and turned around while moving to see him and when he swung his head back he caught a stick in the eye and lost the eye.

So wear the gear and be safe.

[robertyateman]

Life is way to short to be carfull :beer::beer:

[alpineman]

Life is way to short to be carfull :beer::beer:

or be careful and smart and lengthen life