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Bowhunter32
08-11-2005, 08:24 AM
Can you believe it , i was out last night Practicing my Bow on my 1 and half acre lot and the cops drive up into my driveway saying that ti need to not shoot that there was a neighbor that mad a complaint they are worried someone might get hit and i was like omg who is going to get hit there is no one around , man i cant even believe this in my own home with no one around for at least 500 yards and i am shooting no where s near houses and i have to stop all i can say is :flipoff: and for me to practice now the closest is a 20 minute drive into the bush just to practice sure thats not to far but just makes it inconvienet now especially when my truck that i ordered from dodge wont be ready till the 28th of this month so i have no vehicle till then to get me around,
I just cant understand some people i lived here for 5 years now and have never had one problem and yet theres neighbor that practic in there half acre lots whats the deal with that and they have houses twice as close as i do

:-XX

WOOKIE
08-11-2005, 08:49 AM
Are you in the city? If not and it is private land I would tell the cop and the neighbor to get bent.

Bowhunter32
08-11-2005, 10:04 AM
yea we are jsu tout side of stown i live ina a little town in th emiddle of no where lol, but i am jsut outside of town limits but these frigen neightbors have been nothing but a pain n the *** since they moved here 6 months ago if it aint one thing its another ....for instance the grass we have trees on the far side of ht eproperty that we dont deal with across our land and they think we should cut the little strip of grass in the trees to make ther yard look better OMFG is all i can say

Dillershortbow
08-11-2005, 10:33 AM
I would make sure i had a back stop. If you have a regional district check and make sure the is not some bylaw i dougt there is then tell them to pound sand. Cop themselves don`t know the law. My friend how lives on 1acher was told by the rcmp if he shot again they would charge him with criminal neglagence . He had to reposition his butte so if he missed it woundn`t go into his niebors place he`s back shooting.

WOOKIE
08-11-2005, 10:40 AM
Diller has it right. As long is there is no municipal bylaw regarding discharge of weapons and you are not shooting towards their house, they have no leg to stand on. Stick up for your rights.

Bowhunter32
08-11-2005, 10:50 AM
aye yes i have a garage at our house tha ti have set up with a full wall of hard strafoam the wal is atleast 15feet high by 30 gfeet long and then i have on top of the foam wall against the garage my targets and this garage is placed wher hter are no houses period its all bush for omg miles righ tinto thefraser river thats atleast 3 miles of bush i would say ok if i was shooting a differant direction then fine.. i understand that

Grunter
08-11-2005, 11:03 AM
Welcome to the new-era of acreage owners, they think that it's still the city and it's all to themselves! Can't comment on BC laws but I know for sure that in Alberta there wouldn't be any issue... for me, it's just as far a drive to the farm from my house as it is to the nearest archery range in Calgary.

I working on striking a deal with the county fire department to let me use their site for practicing - it's on the boundary road for our town and about a 2-min drive from my place.

coptordoctor
08-11-2005, 11:17 AM
All I can say is check your Bylaw Bud. I had the same thing happen as I have a Black lab that a next door jerk seemed to have a problem with running loose the Dog is on my property and will not go off it. The OPP showed up one day and told my wife that if she did not tie up the Dog she would be charged. She phoned me at work in tears as we mover to the country to have room for a dog then this. I phoned the Bylaw department and found out there was no such law in out township. seems the Cop that took the call was up on the regs from his old town ship where this was the case. I phoned the Police and filed a complaint. The officer was out the next day and opoligized and went to the Next door jerk and explained to him. There was nothing he could do unless the dog was running off the Property.. Take care stand up for yourself to many goofs out there trying to control everything from a to z :cuss: :321:

Mooseplus
08-11-2005, 06:47 PM
Same thing happened to me down here a few years back. I was shooting on rough land just off the development I was living in then. One day city cops showed up. They told me that they had received a complaint from a woman and had to investigate. It turned out that there was nothing they could do except to tell me to be careful and conscious of other people's fears... All it resulted in is me moving back into my front yard and shooting from the end of the driveway and even from across the street into my garage.

I have now since moved out of the city onto a 2 acre forested lot on a dead end street with only 9 houses. I ****ed off some neighbourgs by shooting in my font yard (too much mosquitoes in the back yard during the summer) but they're ****od off the right way ! 4 kids have since taken up the sport of archery.

GILLY
08-11-2005, 09:00 PM
**** Fthem is all I can say. You have broken no criminal laws and to be charged with anything criminal, you must be doing something criminal. If you are shooting a bow, into a target with the intent of practising your shooting.......you are doing nothing wrong. The legal term that must be satisfied to charge you with anything criminal is "mens rea".....the guilty mind. If your intentions are good and you are diligent about set up and safety, criminal neg. does'nt factor in, unless you injure someone.

You really want to get under the skin of "Johnny-whines-too-much" borrow a gas mask and breathing aparatus and walk around your yard spraying water throught a garden sprayer. Totally harmless but sure looks horrid.

My 2 cents

Bowhunter32
08-11-2005, 09:47 PM
hehe i like that with the mask and spraying the lawn LOL i bet that would really rial things up but do i really wanna make more of a nusence 2 wrongs dont make a right and the last i wanna do is show my imaturaty toward this, but i like that though ))

Gaelan
08-12-2005, 06:36 AM
Boy does this sound familiar.

A while back I contacted the city bylaw office and asked them about shooting in the back yard. They told me that as long as it wasn't on city owned propertythere was nothing stopping me but they advised me to contact Edmonton POlice Service to make sure.

City says yes, Cops say no. Who's right? Don't the CIty POlice have to Abide by their employer's guidelines ( The City and it's bylaws)?

All I know is that I will be making a pit stop @ a City Police detachment and asking to see the statutes regarding shooting. Seeing as I was fed BS by EPS 9 years ago that cost me 22 months of court battles for my son and 50K plus in legal expenses.... I wanna see something in writing this time.

Taxman
08-12-2005, 07:16 AM
I currently shoot in my backyard all the time.

I have about 90 feet x 60 feet for a yard and there's a small sliver of property belonging to a neighbour behind me (on the court near my house). I have never looked into the rules concerning shooting in the village in which I live but after that sliver, I shoot towards a farmer's field. Safe shooting only, so there shouldn't be a problem.

However, once the new guy (with the sliver) moves in, I will have to speak with him I guess to be sure he won't be calling the cops on me.

I can see why you shouldn't be allowed to shoot compound bows in the city, however, even my kid's 10 lb Lil Indian is banned if the bylaw exists.

The best advice is to research your situation and if you are not doing anything wrong, go and speak with the neighbour and politely explain the principles of saftey that you adhere to.

Mike

Spreggy
08-12-2005, 07:25 AM
Gilly, that's cruel man. I like the way you think. ;)

Seriously, if you're in the right, insist on practicing there. Some neighbors think that their yard includes your yard, and if this neighbor has this problem of perception I would go well out of my way to make sure they knew different.

GILLY
08-12-2005, 07:47 AM
hehe i like that with the mask and spraying the lawn LOL i bet that would really rial things up but do i really wanna make more of a nusence 2 wrongs dont make a right and the last i wanna do is show my imaturaty toward this, but i like that though ))

No worries.....I thought it would lighten up a crappy situation. Just think, you must be awefully damn important for this guy to spend so much time worrying about what you are doing!

I live on 7 acres of "my" land with no nieghbors........the thought of someone trying to tell me what to do on my little kingdom boils my blood.

I really hope things work out for you....good luck.

Bowhunter32
08-12-2005, 10:34 AM
Yea i going to be heading over to the city here and see what the bylaws are i am sure we are ok beoucse i have had the police drive by our house numerous times when i was using my bow and never stoped to give me a warning or not to shoot it, but i going to check just to be on the safe side

Kirby
08-12-2005, 06:16 PM
Check the by-laws, if nothing comes up, screw them.

Kirby

Pic7
08-12-2005, 07:47 PM
Hehe, by-laws, gotta love them.

I got them good once, the Ottawa By-law that is. (Losers)

My black lab loved to walk himself by holding his own leash, other end attached to his collar. Well, one day, I get a warning by the by-law officer that I should be holding the leash..I say, the law says my dog must be on a leash and nothing about the other end being held..so, I humor him, take my dogs leash. I go home, print the by-law to have with me next time.

Get stopped a second time and told the same thing, that I should hold my end of the leash. I pull out the by-law and ask him to point out in the by-law where it says that I the other end be held by a person. :haha: All it says is that your dog MUST be attached to a leash, which he was. He says it's common sense, I say laws are laws. He threatens to write me up and I tell him go ahead, I'll fight it and I'll win with ONE question...Once YOU are on the stand, all I have to do, is ask YOU, "according to the by-law as written, was my dog on a leash"? Guess what you'll have to answer. :twisted: :twisted: He mumbled and grumbled and walked away....2 months later, I happen to check the by-law, and it was changed to sate that a leash, attached to a dog, must also be held by the owner/person walking the dog!! :)

Gotta love it!!

Serge P.