scent eliminator & lure

[KentuckyIII]

Can anybody recomend me a good scent eliminator o an odors cover, easy to use an for all types of hunts

Im want to try a buck lure o some argentinian deers.. it will works or ther are made for an specific deer?

Thaks

[fulldraw]

Try scent shield earth blend,for covering your scent or get scent lock clothing.

[othmar]

Can anybody recomend me a good scent eliminator o an odors cover, easy to use an for all types of hunts

Im want to try a buck lure o some argentinian deers.. it will works or ther are made for an specific deer?

Thaks

The best way to stay scent free is to be clean. Have a shower, any unscented soap will do. Wash your camo outerwear in any unscented soap and hang it outside to dry then stuff it in a plastic bag. You should not wear your hunting garments when you travel to the hunting site, but rater change the garments once you arrive there.
My best advice is stay clean and stay downwind from the animals. Personally I use a Sent-Lok suit and as coverup Essence of Fall which is an all natural blend.

Any deer urin will work just fine, even human urin. Urin tunrs in to amonia and it is this smell that attracts all animals. I have attracted bucks and other animals with my own pee. Animals and humans have the same hormons. There are scent lures made for special animal species but believe me its all the same.

Othmar

[swampdonkey]

I use Essence of Fall scent coverup plus wafers either earth or elk coverup if I am hunting elk but with the Essence of Fall I have being with in 7 yards of deer and before I started using coverup I could not even get close to them. If you combined this with the Ultimate Crawl you shouldf have a sensational hunt.
Swampdonkey

[Truk]

I use HS scent wafers to cover my scent,if i can find a fresh scrape,i will take up some of that dirt and rub it on my clothes and hands.I hunt in the central lower penisula of Michigan,so the wafers I use is "freash earth" and"white oak".These seem to work well as i have only been busted(by an old doe) once in the last 4 years.By the way i did get that doe in late december from a tree wearing a white coverall as there was snow on the ground and trees. 8)

[WOOKIE]

I use the HS Scents Fresh Earth Wafers. The work well. I even hang one in my truck troughout hunting season, just to help out.

[scooter]

Any deer urin will work just fine, even human urin. Urin tunrs in to amonia and it is this smell that attracts all animals. I have attracted bucks and other animals with my own pee. Animals and humans have the same hormons. There are scent lures made for special animal species but believe me its all the same.

Othmar

Hey othmar...First off, welcome to The BowZone....Secondly....I was always under the impression that human urine would spook the deer....not attract them... I know you explained it...I just can't put that one right in my head.

Has anyone else found that human urine attracts deer vs. spookin' them?

[Truk]

Please bear with me as this may be long, 2 years ago i was sitting in a tree stand about 25 feet up,it was a cold late october morning(15 degrees F) it was getting to be about 9:30 and due to the fact i had coffee early in the morning i had to pee bad!,i did not want to get down so i just unzipped and let it go,before ihad a chance to zip up a nice forkhorn was right underneath me! I got my bow,nocked an arrow(with my pants slidding down to my knees) and smoked that deer at 12 yards!I know a lot of people wont believe me but i was there and have the horns to prove it.So i guess human urine could work , but thats the only time i have "used " it. :cheers:

[elkaholic]

Interesting. I've seen this statement mentioned many times on other hunting sites with the same “BASIC” chemical composition reason given. I know one thing….my pee doesn’t smell like elk urine or moose urine or deer urine, especially when they’re in the rut! There may be some “key” pheromones missing here! I’m like Warden still trying to get my mind bent around this one!

I’ll venture to say human urine may act more like a curiosity getter, possibly appealing to their natural urge to try and decipher what’s in his/her domain. I have a friend who’s a Lab tech I wonder if I could con him into testing some pee for me… he… he…I can see it now, “I don’t know how to tell you this, but your going to have a calf moose this spring.”

I did a search on the net and couldn’t come up with anything conclusive, maybe someone else can shed more light on this contraversial subject?!!…

[Truk]

I really do not think that is was the smell of the urine that caused that buck to come in,I think that it may have been the sound of it hitting the leaves and ground that aroused his curiosity,maybe i sounded like a doe peeing in a scrape? :oops:

[bdoa]

There was a guy name Fred Trost, he used to have a tv show called Michigan Outdoors, but lost most everything to a lawsuit about a program he had on deer scents. He took human pee, buckstop, and a couple other scents I beleive, and put them to the test. All of his findings where recorded for his tv show. He found that the deer responded to the human scent as good if not better than to deer lures. It was when he told people they where waisting their money on scent lures that he got sued by the companies. Fred Trost is back on tv with a new program called Fred Trost's Practical Sportsman.

I personaly don't use lures, or bottled scents. All the animals I have shot with my bow have been on the stalk wearing a scent loc liner, and leafy camo, or just leafy camo.

I was talking with a chemist at the UofA about the animal pee from estrus animals, I have a friend with an elk farm that was going to give me pee straight out of his cow elk in heat, and put directly into a bottle, he had lots of it because when an animal is artificialy inseminated, they have to first remove all the bladder contents. Now the chemist told me that fresh pee is better than old pee, but as far as it haveing any of the estrus scent to it, he said nope.. the chemicals that drive the males mad, are burnt off soon after the pee is out of the animal. Because of what he told me I have not been much of a fan of these bottled scents that say deer in heat or deer in estrus scent. I can only tell you what he told me, I know not weather it's true, take it for what it's worth.


Randy

[WOOKIE]

I found this on the web:

By Dr. Dave Samuel

Ben Koerth and James Kroll know as much about the behavior of rutting whitetails as any two biologists in the country. They conducted a fascinating study looking at what scents attract deer to scrapes. Some of the results are you would expect. Most visits to scrapes occurred two to three weeks prior to the rut. Marking the overhead branch almost always occurred on visits to scrapes. And, of course we all know that bucks come to buck urine and hot doe urine... right? Consider what these researchers found in the first year of the study.

In 1998 they put hot doe urine, buck urine, human urine, and nothing in mock scrapes placed in typical scrape locations on their Texas study sites. They then followed these scrapes via cameras from October 11 to December 5. The results were rather amazing.

Sixty-five bucks, 33 does and 26 fawns visited the areas. Seventeen of the bucks were 1.5-years old (estimated from the photos), 27 were 2.5-years old, 12 were 3.5-years old, and nine were over 4.5-years old.

The highest visitation was at 3 a.m., but many visits took place one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after. Bucks visited scrapes with buck urine the most, but almost the same number of bucks came to the human urine scrapes. That's right... bucks came to human urine! Third in visits were scrapes with nothing in them, and a very close fourth was hot doe urine.

Here's a doe at a scrape... the author says does occasionally visit mock scrapes.
In order to get a better idea of what was happening, in 1999 the researchers modified their approach a bit. This time they used scrapes with rutting buck urine, hot doe urine, nothing in the scrape, and "new car" scent (comes in a spray can). I'm not kidding, they sprayed new car scent on some mock scrapes. If anything would scare bucks in the woods it would be new car scent.

But look at the results. The buck urine got the most visits, hot doe urine was a very close second, and no scent in the scrape was a very close third. However, the new car scent also had bucks visit the scrape. It's true; bucks came to scrapes that sprayed with new car scent!

With bucks coming to scrapes with no scent in them, and some coming to new car scent, what is going on here? Apparently the bucks are coming to mock scrapes out of curiosity. Since most any scent seems to work, the researchers concluded that attraction to those scrapes has little to do with sexual activity.

One thought I immediately had after hearing those results was that those "curiosity" scents some folks sell may work best in mock scrapes. Or maybe one should just kick off some leaves in a spot where you want to shoot, before getting to a stand, because no scent scrapes also attracted deer. Based on this study, bucks walking by such "scrapes" will sometimes visit, even with no urine odor in the area. And just maybe we shouldn't be so concerned about the odor of human urine in the woods. One obvious conclusion from this study; buck urine worked best to attract bucks to scrapes.

This research is interesting for sure, and just maybe it will give you some ideas that will increase your success this fall.

[elkaholic]

Good info guys. Geez ta think..... I'm carrying around 40 to $50.00 dollars worth of buck attractant at any given time and never new it!!!!! Look out this year, I'm going to have a hard time walking by a scrap without freshening it up a bit!

[bdoa]

We make a big fuss about takeing a bottle up the tree with us to pee in...
Now with knowing that human pee attracts bucks, just think how liberating it will be to just sit there and wet your pants, while you chum the air with scent. You can reflect on childhood memories as you sit in a fresh pool of deer lure waiting for a buck.. LOL

Well maybe not..


Randy

[WOOKIE]

Randy, I really like the sound of falling rain on the forest floor, so when I have to go, I just stand up in the stand and let er rip while turning a slow circle. Sounds like rain and as and added bonus it just may bring a horny buck into my shooting range! J/K! :thumbsup:

I have never worried about pissin outta the stand. Just let er rip. From what I have read in the past, it won't hurt anything! Just don't think I would want to piss in my pants as it gets cold and uncomfortable real quick. The first few minutes are glorious though! :shock: