View Full Version : Changes in 3D Shoots - Please take note
jhooey
05-18-2010, 04:27 PM
There are a couple of changes in 3D shoots:
1. Taber Archers will host the Scout Island Shoot on June 5 & 6,2010. The tour day is Sunday. Each day is a separate shoot and money is paid out to flight winners each day.
2. The Bighorn Archers will be hosting the ATAA Provincials instead of the Lethbridge Bowbenders.
Please pass on this information to everyone that you know. Thanks.
littlered
05-18-2010, 06:58 PM
Will Bighorn have a seperate shoot for ATAA or will the 19-20 of June be it?
jhooey
05-20-2010, 01:28 PM
I'm sorry. I do not know the answer to that question.
wctbowtech
05-20-2010, 03:17 PM
Will Bighorn have a seperate shoot for ATAA or will the 19-20 of June be it?
I just went to Bighorns website and on the poster for the Father's Day Clasic it states it is a ABA and ATAA shoot on June 19 & 20.
I just went to Bighorns website and on the poster for the Father's Day Clasic it states it is a ABA and ATAA shoot on June 19 & 20.
What seriously? I am goign to miss that one then..
WHy does our outdoor 3d season end so quick? Why can we not have the provincials and in the middle of august when the summer is acutually winding up? Brutal...
And there is a big shoot down in medicine hat that weekend as well..i dont understand this..do clubs not realize how many shooters they are missing out on by booking there shoot overtop of another one?
All of july is open for shoots now, To my knowledge there is not one weekend that has a shoot booked. Yet eveyone double books every weekend so clubs get half of the shooters they normally would..
Medicine Hat has had that weekend booked for a while now..how come we go and change the provincial shoot at the last minute and double book? Does not seem to fair to the medicine hat club....
This crap only seems to happen in the outdoor season, There never seems to be a conflict during the indoor season....:bs:
acearchery
05-20-2010, 07:48 PM
What seriously? I am goign to miss that one then..
WHy does our outdoor 3d season end so quick? Why can we not have the provincials and in the middle of august when the summer is acutually winding up? Brutal...
And there is a big shoot down in medicine hat that weekend as well..i dont understand this..do clubs not realize how many shooters they are missing out on by booking there shoot overtop of another one?
All of july is open for shoots now, To my knowledge there is not one weekend that has a shoot booked. Yet eveyone double books every weekend so clubs get half of the shooters they normally would..
Medicine Hat has had that weekend booked for a while now..how come we go and change the provincial shoot at the last minute and double book? Does not seem to fair to the medicine hat club....
This crap only seems to happen in the outdoor season, There never seems to be a conflict during the indoor season....:bs:
This always comes up and when setting a shoot most clubs have "their" weekend set, after organizing both indoor and outdoor 3D shoots it is a lot of work for a club to get the resources, volunteers etc, to host a shoot and do what we can for the archery community .
I noticed and spoke up about the same things and have got involved with our club and organized a shoot that is now going into its 5th year and can atest to how much work it is and what needs to be done. A lot of stuff happens behind the scenes to get a shoot ready that many people who just show up to a shoot don't realize.
While a shoot can be beneficial for a club in revenue, advertising, and just getting some archers together it takes many volunteers to make it happen.
I encourage those who are involved to stay involved and for those who are not... then get involved especially if you see the need for improvement... then get more involved in your local club and make things better...
In July try and find the volunteers...
PS Drayton, Edson MAyerthorpe, Hinton all used to host shoots in July and to my knowledge only Drayton is left!....
I have seen a few different systems and it is a great idea to share shoots around but when i look at the biggest most successful shoots they are always on the same time and location.... The Mother, Vegas, Ontario Spring Classic, Redding, IBO worlds,
Perhaps that is something that should be explored for Outdoors.... The Mother is a big successful shoot here because some visionary people got together and made it happen!...
Just some ideas!..
I am not takign anything away from the volunteers that set these shoots up at all, I am VERY greatful that clubs get volunteers to set up and run the shoots.
But is it not a kick in the teeth to the volunteers that set these shoots up when the turnout they get for all there hard work is only half of what it should be because of clubs not being able to communicate and have separate weekends for there shoots?
Liek i dont understand, is it egos getting in the way? all this ABA, ATAA, 3DAA, SABA crap is getting kinda old. I dont know if this is the reason for all the miss understanding but it is getting quite frusterating...
Granted i have only been in the 3d scene in alberta for 3 years, but you would think that if this happens every year (which i have ben told it does!) why something can not be done about it....:sos:
jackal
05-20-2010, 09:31 PM
Hey guy I think they get get booked over each other because the clubs seem to get bad weather for there weekend every year so they decide to change the weekends sometimes to try for better weather.
Hey guy I think they get get booked over each other because the clubs seem to get bad weather for there weekend every year so they decide to change the weekends sometimes to try for better weather.
i hope there is a better reason for it then that....this is southern alberta, the weather changes every 5 mins.....
why not have more shoots in the summer then (July and August) intead of the spring (May) when it is raining all the time and possibly still snowing!!!
jhooey
05-21-2010, 12:58 PM
The Lethbridge Bowbenders were asked to host the Provincials at their shoot in July. Then, the ATAA Executive decided that Bighorn would host the Provincials. We will still be having our shoot on July 17 & 18 even if it is not the Provincials. We hope that Bighorn has a large turn out and that many of those archers will come to our shoot as well.
Medicine Hat Archers changed their date because last year it snowed six inches on their weekend. This was the only other weekend they could get the Eagle's Nest Ranch. Sometimes, when a club uses land that does not belong to them, it is necessary to "double book" shoots.
We all try not to host shoots on weekends that conflict, but when you look at the number of clubs in Alberta and the few weekends in a summer, it really is difficult to not double up. In the winter, there are fewer clubs that hold shoots so conflict is lessened.
The 3DAA planned a shoot schedule so that shoots that were part of the tours did not conflict. I understand that Ann Neumeyer will be working on a 3D program for the ATAA. I am sure that this problem will be researched.
As to why there are few shoots in August, there are two reasons. First, the 3D Nationals is the first weekend in August. All Provinces try to have Provincials before then. (I agree that June is too early, but maybe next year will be different.) Second, hunting season starts in August so many archers change gear and prepare for hunting.
pinshooter2305
05-21-2010, 10:26 PM
I am very disappointed that the Provincials is double booked as well. Sometimes these things happen. BUT the Medicine Hat Shoot is an awesome shoot with great courses and facilities. They have shower and bathroom facilities and an AWESOME supper. One of the best shoots around...if you ask me!!!! (Ha Ha, I may be partial) We have some awesome raffle prizes including a ladder stand!! If you are looking for something different than the same old shoots with the same old people, then come on down. We get shooters from Alberta, Saskatchewan and the US. And YES we did have a foot of snow last year, but if you ask anyone that was there...we sure had FUN and ate really well!!!!
obwon
05-26-2010, 11:08 AM
The Calgary Archers has a shoot every month starting end of April till end of August.
To my knowledge from the previous meetings that it was agreed that the ATAA provincial shoot was to be held with a ABA shoot to help the clubs get a larger turn out. (for the 2010 season at least & maybe the future??)
It turns out that Bighorn is having their fathers day classic shoot & ABA shoot, also put their bid in for the ATAA). The meeting was a couple weeks ago where they decided on which club would get the ATAA shoot. Yes there has been confusion on this, but we all want to get this corrected for next season & have a better 3D season all around the province for all of the summer months.
Sorry for any confusion all this has caused.
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05-28-2010, 07:40 PM
There are a couple of changes in 3D shoots:
1. Taber Archers will host the Scout Island Shoot on June 5 & 6,2010. The tour day is Sunday. Each day is a separate shoot and money is paid out to flight winners each day.
2. The Bighorn Archers will be hosting the ATAA Provincials instead of the Lethbridge Bowbenders.
Please pass on this information to everyone that you know. Thanks.
I was told that the Taber shoot was postponed due to weather. Is that true and if so, when will it be held?
jhooey
05-29-2010, 07:15 AM
The Scout Island shoot was postponed from May 1 & 2 because of weather. It will be held June 5 & 6.
The FITA in Lethbridge May 30 is cancelled. Please pass it on.
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05-31-2010, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the info :)
Mikey
05-31-2010, 01:46 PM
What seriously? I am goign to miss that one then..
WHy does our outdoor 3d season end so quick? Why can we not have the provincials and in the middle of august when the summer is acutually winding up? Brutal...
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This crap only seems to happen in the outdoor season, There never seems to be a conflict during the indoor season....:bs:
Because Nationals is the first weekend in August and provicial teams need to be set for them, which are typically chosen at provincials
Because Hunting season starts in early- mid august for most of the the nation ... Alberta while having the most liberal Archery only tackle season in the country ... gets off to one of the latest starts of the year in the country
Many clubs have their "Hunter warm-up" shoots in the beggining of august typically the same weekend as Nats and IBO worlds
and yes it does happen in Indoor season as well
aneumeyer
06-02-2010, 10:42 AM
Thanks Jude for you post that explains many of the details. The ATAA executive did vote on who will host the ATAA 3D Provincials later than usual this year because of some problems that arose at the AGM in Lac La Biche. It would have been decided earlier, normally.
Yes, the ATAA 3D Provincials will be at Bighorn June 19/20 and it is run in conjunction with their traditional Father's Day Shoot.
Please note that since the 3DAA has been dissolved, the 3D season this year is going to leave a bit to be desired. I have put my name and reputation on the line and volunteered to be a liaison of the sport of 3D archery for the ATAA. Please bear with me as I gather information from members and suggestions for a 3D program. When I have a report/plan I will be presenting it to the ATAA Executive for their consideration and hopefully approval. I would like to address as many concerns as possible and come up with a plan that is agreeable to a majority of shooters. I realize that we may not come up with a plan to which 100% of the membership agrees to, but I would like to help make it better.
Any ATAA members with concerns can e-mail me directly and I will take your concerns into consideration when preparing my report to the ATAA executive.
neumeyer@xplornet.com
I am thanking you all in advance for your input and I hope that I can gather many responses. Anyway that you can help me, will help make a better program.
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Because Nationals is the first weekend in August and provicial teams need to be set for them, which are typically chosen at provincials
Because Hunting season starts in early- mid august for most of the the nation ... Alberta while having the most liberal Archery only tackle season in the country ... gets off to one of the latest starts of the year in the country
Many clubs have their "Hunter warm-up" shoots in the beggining of august typically the same weekend as Nats and IBO worlds
and yes it does happen in Indoor season as well
i am talking alberta, not BC.....i dont even think alberta has a provincial 3d team....
Mikey
06-02-2010, 03:21 PM
They did when I lived there 4 years ago under the ATAA and I am fairly convinced they had a Provincial team last year at Nationals
They did when I lived there 4 years ago under the ATAA and I am fairly convinced they had a Provincial team last year at Nationals
dont think so....
Mikey
06-06-2010, 05:08 PM
dont think so....
maybe not the last few years ... But I know for a fact that Alberta had a provincial 3D team at one point in time and when i lived in AB it was still there ... and it was through the ATAA (team members even got pretty blue track suits) ... the 3DAA was created with the thought of continuing/expanding that but evidently peoples egos got in the way and the 3DAA disolved
obwon
06-06-2010, 05:22 PM
yes ATAA did have a 3D team for Alberta, we were not funded by the province like others were. I wore one of the shirts to a outdoor Canadian Championship.
Mikey
06-06-2010, 05:33 PM
Al, the ATAA has had provincial grants in the past ... the ATAA just chose not to fund the 3d portion of its membership like it did the Paper side ... but thats a whole new old topic ... My point is that Alberta Did have a Provincial 3D team .... BC isnt funded directly by the government either ... However the BCAA does apply for and receive grants and funds its 3D program proportionally to its membership makeup which allows for funding for 8 "team" members / year to go to Nats
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